Panzer Jaegerwagen

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Almost every AFV produced by other nations has a German name and probably some mild instances of use after being captured. Only those vehicles which were used extensively should be listed here. Oberiko 14:29, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Yes that is true there were a lot, which is why I only listed a couple of the more well known ones there in addition to the 35/38. The idea that only extensively used afv's should be listed is exceedinlg contradictory as many of the non-experimental ones on the list had fewer then a 100 produced and saw only limted action, less then many captured vehicles.
• The three Nzbf's you mention were only the three that saw action in Norway and used for propoganda, there were some other earlier prototpyes that existed of that general class. They were not really the typical prototype's since they saw action, but I will agree they probably shouldn't go alongside the major tanks since it was so limited.
• Right now the template is a mix of high and low production vehicles of widely varying degree's of use. Depending on what threshold of use should be used it is either very incomplete or has many uneeded vehicles.
• I am going to try and make some more changes, though I will leave some things. Starfury 05:49, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The primary difference between the Panzer 35/38(t) and the T-74 & S-35 is that the Germans actively produced Panzer 35/38's after capturing Czechoslavkia. The other examples mentioned were simply models that they captured and pressed into use. I have seen no record of their producing further examples on their own initiative and for that reason do not believe they should be listed here. Oberiko 12:59, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• That is a good seperation to point out, though, in this case I think relative use is a important criteria as well. Really I am not so concerned which section the 35/38 go, but for inclusion of the more heavily used foreign vehicles. To me the difference between capturing a vehicle, and capturing a factory is not so critical as amount of use in total. For example, there are some vehicles whose amount captured was greater then amount captured and produced of say, the 35.
• This is espcially true for german armed forces where captured vehicles formed a integral part of many fighting forces, and of relative number. In the case of the t-34 versions for example, it wasn't just a matter of being thrown into use, but of a whole network of support, supply and re-fitting for upwards of several hundred tanks.
• I do understand your point there, and I have seen tank websites handle it in a number of ways. Ultimately, it can be considered in different ways due the complicated nature of its adoption. My thinking here had been to sidestep the issue and try and focus on use, rather then on this usually complicated nature of adoption